14 mars 2014
Le mystère de l'avion du Malaysia Airlines Flight 370
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Le Wall street journal confirme que les signaux satellites des systèmes embarqués dans le vol MH370 ont continué à envoyer des données de vol pendant 4 heures après la fin des communications, soit 3500 km au maximum...
Contrairement au premier article, ce ne sont pas les sondes des moteurs Rolls-Royce qui ont envoyé des informations.
L'avion a pu descendre en dessous des couvertures radar, sans transpondeur(s) et continuer de voler.
La question est jusqu'où et dans quel but?
Se rappeler à ce sujet l'opération Northwoods du 13 mars 1962 que je mets en commentaires et dans le post suivant....et qui projetait une attaque sous faux drapeau avec 2 avions identiques en apparence, dont un maquillé et un à détruire pour faire croire à une attaque de l'adversaire (cuba en 1962, Russie, Iran, Chine en 2014?)...
Vera-t-on un vol détourné de 777 et abattu/encastré dans les semaines/mois/années à venir?
Dans cette hypothèse (certes peu probable, mais non nulle), que sont devenu les passagers du vol MH370?
Quel base (militaire? services "spéciaux" ?) est située dans un rayon, disons, de 2500 km?
Complotiste, farfelu?
Et le golfe du tonkin, pearl harbour, les couveuses du koweit, les snipers de la place maidan, le gaz sarin en Syrie, l'attentat de la gare de Bologne, les tueurs du Brabant, le 11 septembre, l'attentat de la fête de la bière à munich, allende et le chili, lumumba, etc...?
Documentez-vous avant de critiquer sans argumentaire béton...
La question n'est pas de savoir si vous feriez une telle chose, mais d'admettre que certaines personnes avide de pouvoir, d'argent et sans scrupules ni empathie (sociopathes, psychopathes, mégalomaniaques, etc) le peuvent car leurs profils psychologiques et sémantiques leurs permettent d'accéder aux postes clés du pouvoir sans remords...
Attendons et voyons la suite...
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U.S. investigators suspect that Malaysia Airlines Flight 370 stayed in the air for up to four hours past the time it reached its last confirmed location, according to two people familiar with the details, raising the possibility that the plane could have flown on for hundreds of additional miles under conditions that remain murky.
Former FBI agent Chris Voss joins the News Hub to discuss U.S. investigators' suspicions that Malaysia Airlines Flight 370 stayed in the air for four hours after vanishing from civilian air-traffic control radar.
The investigators believe the plane flew for a total of up to five hours, according to these people, based on analysis of signals sent by the Boeing 777's satellite-communication link designed to automatically transmit the status of certain onboard systems to the ground.
Throughout the roughly four hours after the jet dropped from civilian radar screens, these people said, the link operated in a kind of standby mode and sought to establish contact with a satellite or satellites. These transmissions did not include data, they said, but the periodic contacts indicate to investigators that the plane was still intact and believed to be flying.
(Follow the latest developments in the search for missing Flight 370.)
Investigators are still working to fully understand the information, according to one person briefed on the matter. The transmissions, this person said, were comparable to the plane "saying I'm here, I'm ready to send data."
Investigators are trying to determine, among other things, whether the plane may have landed in an unknown location at some point during the period under scrutiny, these people said.
As authorities scramble to analyze and understand all of the transmissions from the missing 777, the situation continues to change rapidly.
The disclosure that the plane kept transmitting has raised a host of new questions and possibilities about what happened aboard the widebody jet carrying 239 people, which vanished from civilian air-traffic control radar over the weekend, about one hour into a flight to Beijing from Kuala Lumpur.
Six days after the mysterious disappearance prompted a massive international air and water search that so far hasn't produced any results, the investigation appears to be broadening in scope.
U.S. counterterrorism officials are pursuing the possibility that a pilot or someone else on board the plane may have diverted it toward an undisclosed location after intentionally turning off the jetliner's transponders to avoid radar detection, according to one person tracking the probe.
The investigation remains fluid, and it isn't clear whether investigators have evidence indicating possible terrorism or sabotage. So far, U.S. national security officials have said that nothing specifically points toward terrorism, though they haven't ruled it out.
But the huge uncertainty about where the plane was headed, and why it apparently continued flying so long without working transponders, has raised theories among investigators that the aircraft may have been commandeered for a reason that appears unclear to U.S. authorities. Some of those theories have been laid out to national security officials and senior personnel from various U.S. agencies, according to one person familiar with the matter.
At one briefing, according to this person, officials were told investigators are actively pursuing the notion that the plane was diverted "with the intention of using it later for another purpose."
As of Wednesday it remained unclear whether the plane reached an alternate destination or if it ultimately crashed, potentially hundreds of miles from where an international search effort has been focused.
In those scenarios, neither mechanical problems, pilot mistakes nor some other type of catastrophic incident caused the 250-ton plane to mysteriously vanish from radar.
The latest revelations come as local media reported that Malaysian police visited the home of at least one of the two pilots.
A Malaysia Airlines official declined to comment. A Boeing executive who declined to be named would not comment except to say, "We've got to stand back from the front line of the information."
On Thursday, Malaysian aviation officials said the flight could have flown for several hours after its last contact, but they said they had received no data indicating this.
The signals to satellites also are being analyzed to help determine the flight path of the plane after the transponders stopped working. The jet was originally headed for China, and its last verified position was half way across the Gulf of Thailand.
A total flight time of five hours after departing Kuala Lumpur means the Boeing 777 could have continued for an additional distance of about 2,200 nautical miles, reaching points as far as the Indian Ocean, the border of Pakistan or even the Arabian Sea, based on the jet's cruising speed.
—Trefor Moss, Gaurav Raghuvanshi, Josh Chin and Jeremy Page contributed to this article.
Write to Andy Pasztor at andy.pasztor@wsj.com and Jon Ostrower at jon.ostrower@wsj.com
Corrections & Amplifications
U.S. investigators suspect Malaysia Airlines Flight 370 flew for hours past the time it reached its last confirmed location, based on an analysis of signals sent through the plane's satellite-communication link designed to automatically transmit the status of onboard systems, according to people familiar with the matter. An earlier version of this article incorrectly said investigators based their suspicions on signals from monitoring systems embedded in the plane's Rolls-Royce PLC engines and described that process.
http://online.wsj.com/news/articles/SB10001424052702304914904579434653903086282?mod=trending_now_1
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Contrairement au premier article, ce ne sont pas les sondes des moteurs Rolls-Royce qui ont envoyé des informations.
L'avion a pu descendre en dessous des couvertures radar, sans transpondeur(s) et continuer de voler.
La question est jusqu'où et dans quel but?
Se rappeler à ce sujet l'opération Northwoods du 13 mars 1962 que je mets en commentaires et dans le post suivant....et qui projetait une attaque sous faux drapeau avec 2 avions identiques en apparence, dont un maquillé et un à détruire pour faire croire à une attaque de l'adversaire (cuba en 1962, Russie, Iran, Chine en 2014?)...
Vera-t-on un vol détourné de 777 et abattu/encastré dans les semaines/mois/années à venir?
Dans cette hypothèse (certes peu probable, mais non nulle), que sont devenu les passagers du vol MH370?
Quel base (militaire? services "spéciaux" ?) est située dans un rayon, disons, de 2500 km?
Complotiste, farfelu?
Et le golfe du tonkin, pearl harbour, les couveuses du koweit, les snipers de la place maidan, le gaz sarin en Syrie, l'attentat de la gare de Bologne, les tueurs du Brabant, le 11 septembre, l'attentat de la fête de la bière à munich, allende et le chili, lumumba, etc...?
Documentez-vous avant de critiquer sans argumentaire béton...
La question n'est pas de savoir si vous feriez une telle chose, mais d'admettre que certaines personnes avide de pouvoir, d'argent et sans scrupules ni empathie (sociopathes, psychopathes, mégalomaniaques, etc) le peuvent car leurs profils psychologiques et sémantiques leurs permettent d'accéder aux postes clés du pouvoir sans remords...
Attendons et voyons la suite...
######
U.S. investigators suspect that Malaysia Airlines Flight 370 stayed in the air for up to four hours past the time it reached its last confirmed location, according to two people familiar with the details, raising the possibility that the plane could have flown on for hundreds of additional miles under conditions that remain murky.
Former FBI agent Chris Voss joins the News Hub to discuss U.S. investigators' suspicions that Malaysia Airlines Flight 370 stayed in the air for four hours after vanishing from civilian air-traffic control radar.
The investigators believe the plane flew for a total of up to five hours, according to these people, based on analysis of signals sent by the Boeing 777's satellite-communication link designed to automatically transmit the status of certain onboard systems to the ground.
Throughout the roughly four hours after the jet dropped from civilian radar screens, these people said, the link operated in a kind of standby mode and sought to establish contact with a satellite or satellites. These transmissions did not include data, they said, but the periodic contacts indicate to investigators that the plane was still intact and believed to be flying.
(Follow the latest developments in the search for missing Flight 370.)
Investigators are still working to fully understand the information, according to one person briefed on the matter. The transmissions, this person said, were comparable to the plane "saying I'm here, I'm ready to send data."
Investigators are trying to determine, among other things, whether the plane may have landed in an unknown location at some point during the period under scrutiny, these people said.
As authorities scramble to analyze and understand all of the transmissions from the missing 777, the situation continues to change rapidly.
The disclosure that the plane kept transmitting has raised a host of new questions and possibilities about what happened aboard the widebody jet carrying 239 people, which vanished from civilian air-traffic control radar over the weekend, about one hour into a flight to Beijing from Kuala Lumpur.
Six days after the mysterious disappearance prompted a massive international air and water search that so far hasn't produced any results, the investigation appears to be broadening in scope.
U.S. counterterrorism officials are pursuing the possibility that a pilot or someone else on board the plane may have diverted it toward an undisclosed location after intentionally turning off the jetliner's transponders to avoid radar detection, according to one person tracking the probe.
The investigation remains fluid, and it isn't clear whether investigators have evidence indicating possible terrorism or sabotage. So far, U.S. national security officials have said that nothing specifically points toward terrorism, though they haven't ruled it out.
But the huge uncertainty about where the plane was headed, and why it apparently continued flying so long without working transponders, has raised theories among investigators that the aircraft may have been commandeered for a reason that appears unclear to U.S. authorities. Some of those theories have been laid out to national security officials and senior personnel from various U.S. agencies, according to one person familiar with the matter.
At one briefing, according to this person, officials were told investigators are actively pursuing the notion that the plane was diverted "with the intention of using it later for another purpose."
As of Wednesday it remained unclear whether the plane reached an alternate destination or if it ultimately crashed, potentially hundreds of miles from where an international search effort has been focused.
In those scenarios, neither mechanical problems, pilot mistakes nor some other type of catastrophic incident caused the 250-ton plane to mysteriously vanish from radar.
The latest revelations come as local media reported that Malaysian police visited the home of at least one of the two pilots.
A Malaysia Airlines official declined to comment. A Boeing executive who declined to be named would not comment except to say, "We've got to stand back from the front line of the information."
On Thursday, Malaysian aviation officials said the flight could have flown for several hours after its last contact, but they said they had received no data indicating this.
The signals to satellites also are being analyzed to help determine the flight path of the plane after the transponders stopped working. The jet was originally headed for China, and its last verified position was half way across the Gulf of Thailand.
A total flight time of five hours after departing Kuala Lumpur means the Boeing 777 could have continued for an additional distance of about 2,200 nautical miles, reaching points as far as the Indian Ocean, the border of Pakistan or even the Arabian Sea, based on the jet's cruising speed.
—Trefor Moss, Gaurav Raghuvanshi, Josh Chin and Jeremy Page contributed to this article.
Write to Andy Pasztor at andy.pasztor@wsj.com and Jon Ostrower at jon.ostrower@wsj.com
Corrections & Amplifications
U.S. investigators suspect Malaysia Airlines Flight 370 flew for hours past the time it reached its last confirmed location, based on an analysis of signals sent through the plane's satellite-communication link designed to automatically transmit the status of onboard systems, according to people familiar with the matter. An earlier version of this article incorrectly said investigators based their suspicions on signals from monitoring systems embedded in the plane's Rolls-Royce PLC engines and described that process.
http://online.wsj.com/news/articles/SB10001424052702304914904579434653903086282?mod=trending_now_1
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live.wsj.comWhat's News: Two passengers aboard Malaysia Airlines flight MH370 were Iranian, General Motors faced new pressure from Congress over recalls and more. Photo: Associated PressMISE A JOUR 12H55Sébastien Sauve Vol MH370: la Malaisie confirme l'extension des recherches vers l'Océan indien
KUALA LUMPUR - La Malaisie a confirmé vendredi l'extension vers l'Océan indien des recherches du Boeing 777 de Malaysia Airlines disparu depuis six jours, mais a refusé de commenter des informations américaines indiquant que l'avion avait continué de voler plusieurs heures près avoir disparu des radars.
L'appareil n'a toujours pas été retrouvé et la zone de recherche a été étendue, a déclaré à la presse le ministre malaisien des Transports, Hishammuddin Hussein. Avec nos partenaires internationaux, nous étendons nos recherches vers l'Est en mer de Chine méridionale, et vers l'Ouest dans l'Océan indien.
Le ministre n'a pas souhaité commenter les informations relayées par des médias américains, qui citent des enquêteurs, également américains.
Ces sources affirment que le vol MH370, avec 239 personnes à bord, a continué de transmettre un signal automatique pendant quelque quatre heures après avoir disparu des radars. Les systèmes de transmission ont régulièrement cherché à se connecter à un ou plusieurs satellites relais, selon ces mêmes sources.
Nous ne voulons pas commenter des déclarations que des responsables anonymes auraient faites dans les médias, a déclaré le ministre. Nous ne souhaitons rien d'autre que de retrouver l'avion aussi vite que possible. Mais les circonstances nous ont poussés à élargir notre zone de recherches.
Hishammuddin Hussein a indiqué que les recherches avaient été étendues car rien n'avait été trouvé dans la zone scrutée depuis près d'un semaine, à savoir à l'est et à l'ouest autour de la péninsule indonésienne.
(©AFP / 14 mars 2014 11h22)Sébastien Sauve Ces sources affirment que le vol MH370, avec 239 personnes à bord, a continué de transmettre un signal automatique pendant quelque quatre heures après avoir disparu des radars. Les systèmes de transmission ont régulièrement cherché à se connecter à un ou plusieurs satellites relais, selon ces mêmes sources.
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